maegul, en
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

The Fedipact statistics are interesting

7% of active users committed to - https://fedidb.org/current-events/anti-meta-fedi-pact

  • How representative of the user base is this, or are admins gatekeeping here? A large survey would be good to clear that up.

  • EG, Mastodon, relative to its userbase, seems the most "Meta friendly" with only 57% of fedipact users (but ~80% all users)

  • Fractal of niche-dom? Fedi ~1% of social media, fedi-pact ~ 10% of fedi. So anti-meta-fediverse ~0.1%?

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lutindiscret,
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@maegul IMHO you are making false assumptions.

Some admin have already / will block Meta but don't see any point of signing the pact.

Some people choose to federate with Threads but are Meta hostile. They federate with the goal of promoting Fedi/FLOSS/privacy/leaving Meta on Threads 🤷

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jupiter_rowland,

@maegul What'd be more interesting is not only how many of all Fediverse users are FediPact proponents, but also how many are opponents, how many don't care, and above all, how many have never even heard of it. You can't expect someone who has just come over from 𝕏 to mastodon.social to have an opinion on this.

Also, different projects, different opinions. I estimate 10% of all Mastodon users would even love to defederate from everything else in the Fediverse that isn't Mastodon because it's so non-Mastodon, and it does freaky stuff that shouldn't exist on Mastodon. At the same time, a large percentage of Friendica users is probably in favour of federating with Threads because Friendica's concept and culture has been about connectivity with everything that moves and then some since 2010.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Mastodon #Friendica #Threads #FediPact

ada,
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I’m not sure how much faith you can put in those stats. My two instances are both defederated from Meta platforms for example, but I haven’t signed the Fedipact. For me, it’s not about Meta itself, but because they house hate groups. If they stopped doing that, I’d federate with them

maegul,
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

@ada

Interesting! Cool to know that the actual number is higher than 7%.

In the end though how likely are Threads/Meta to not have hategroups?

Would it be a good idea to have a more accurate (and therefore higher) number on how many Threads defeds there are?

ada,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I don’t see them removing the hate groups any time soon, but as far as my defederation approach goes, that just makes them like any other hate platform on the fediverse. They get blocked and I move on.

Would it be a good idea to have a more accurate (and therefore higher) number on how many Threads defeds there are?

I’m not sure that it makes much of a difference to anything? It won’t change Meta’s approach to the fediverse, and the pact tracker will never have accurate numbers because of people like me and people that that defederate without even knowing the pact exists.

haui_lemmy,

I signed the pact. Besides the fact that its meta, I would also not federate with one platform 10x bigger than the whole fedi. Thats not organic growth.

Difference between growth and cancer imo.

ada,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I would also not federate with one platform 10x bigger than the whole fedi.

See, I would be ok with that, if they weren’t full of hate.

ajsadauskas,
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@ada @haui_lemmy This is where it's a bad thing that Tumblr hasn't federated with the Fedi yet.

Having the "original" Fedi apps (including Mastodon) plus Tumblr would better balance the size of Threads.

petrescatraian,

@ajsadauskas Flipboard is actively working towards federation though.

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