As we start to see more users join, it's inevitable to see trolls (especially low-effort trolls) making more of an appearance and trying to be controversial and noticed....
It's clear that kbin still has a lot of bugs. Guy running it is a bit overwhelmed right now. Hopefully they're able to fix issues like this sooner rather than later.
And make sure not to click on any links. If enough people use chatgpt or other LLM's to generate comments that are wordy but clearly just filler, it'll give advertisers pause and tank the value of the site as training data. Reddit's response will probably be to start banning users it thinks are doing this but normal users will...
It’s one thing to have differing views, but I’ve seen enough attempted reddit migrations to be relieved that the popular communities in the fediverse so far haven’t been about crazy racist stuff or other extreme right bullshit....
Is this new to post-blackout reddit is or has it been this way for a while. Top post of r/all is a tweet from like 2 years ago about a "current event" that no one has talked about since then and 100% of the comments are talking about this like this topic is the focus of today's or any recent time's 24 hour news cycle. Nearly 30K...
I've been saying it for a while now. Here's a comment I made about it last week:
Reddit right now is like a car crash. It's hard to look away. However, there's a very good reason not to engage, the debate on reddit has become more artificial than most realise.
Reddit's inflated numbers by using bots and fake accounts since day 1. A quick google will result in articles where they admit as much. We all know reddit's had increasing amounts of bots, posting content and increasingly comments, but I don't think people realise how bad it's become.
It's not even that time that reddit's blog accidentally posted about Eglin Air Force base being one of the most reddit addicted cities. I think everyone knows (foreign) governments engage in influence operations online, and that this includes reddit. Even if it's just on an intellectual level, without truly realising that they've been semi-regularly interacting with bots while arguing on reddit. I also don't think anyone's naive enough to think that plenty of political content isn't artificially upvoted or promoted. Same thing goes for product placement.
But the recent shit storm just illustrates reddit the company is part of the problem. Recently, I've seen twenty different accounts post the same comment about not needing third party apps, and dusting off their laptop.
When you're visiting reddit, you're no longer even watching a car crash. It's a simulacrum. An imitation of what's actually happening.
And it's been like this for a while. I've seen naive redditers engaging with bot comments under bot promoted content, posted by bots on more than one occassion.
Reddit has become worse than a hentai date simulator. I don't think anyone who plays those is particularly proud of it. But what to think of the lonely people who engage in reddit discussions with bots, and think they've had a genuine social interaction?
Hey all, I recently left reddit like many of you. I have a question regarding lemmy and the fediverse on the history of banning and defederation. I have noticed several posts calling for varying communities to be disconnected. were these removal requests as prevalent before the mass migration? Usually I am all for communities...
"The new star wars movies are bad cause they are WOKE!1!1!1!1!1 Women are bad!"
vs
"The new star wars movies were an incohesive mess due to changes between writers and directors for all 3 films"
In practice it's rarely that nuanced. For example, lemmy.world defederated from exploding heads recently, and the admins there were posting memes celebrating the deaths of trans people.
Often it doesn't take that long for the mask to drop. Someone banging on about a movie being woke, will have a comment history filled with racial slurs, anti-semitic canards, and calls for violence masked as ironic for plausible deniability.
Don't forget that this isn't reddit, so they're free to be as bigotted as they want on their own community. So all you need to do is take them at their word.
Back on reddit popular subs like /r/2western4u have to be more careful due to their own rules, so using the n-word 50 times an hour or banging on about Kulturbolsjevismus or degeneracy is something they limit to their discord.
The reality is that creeps harassing pregnant women is the least of reddit's problems.
I mean, not so long ago reddit hired a paedophile apologist and IRC diaper play furry fetishist as an admin. They claim they forgot to vet them, but this is the site that tolerated a subreddit with pictures of underage girls for years and gave the mod a custom award.
Expecting reddit to be a safe space for this kind of thing, is like worrying about Epstein stealing beer from the fridge, after you've asked him to baby sit.
Honestly, you might as well burn the whole thing down to the ground. That's the only way to make that site safe for women.
Further reading for those who weren't around or didn't get to hear about it because of censorship on reddit:
From what I've heard, a big issue is condoms. Length isn't an issue, girth is. Too large or too small and it rolls up and/or is more likely to tear. Like a too small latex glove, except a dick there's nothing to stop the condom rolling up. Cleaning a toilet and the glove tears? Shit happens. Condom tears? Baby or STD happens. Not funny.
But from what I can tell, a lot of people who post in forums like that are roleplaying having a large dick or gay guys who want to creep on guys with large dicks. People are weird.
A lonely guy playing a creepy hentai game gets some sexual gratification from his time spent interacting with a piece of software and is at least somewhat self-aware. He knows it's just software, even if he 'married' his bodypillow.
Meanwhile there are increasing numbers of people unaware they're regularly interacting with bots online, not realising one of the reasons social media is making them sadder is because they've atttempting to fulfill their need for social interaction with a facsimile thereof.
It's not unlike Idiocracy, where they give the plants Brawndo instead of water, then wonder why the plants are dying. Vast swathes of the world are feeding their social needs with social media brawndo.
Looking at Fedidb.org the Fediverse Network Statistics, I'm seeing about 98,000 Active users as of the 27th. That's at least 50k new users this month. Welcome to Lemmy, fellow migrants!
To tell if we should be concerned about bots is a difficult task. To make a decision, here's some things we should consider:
Start with the basics. Focus on the language and words used. This will help us understand if users are bots.
Check back regularly. Constant evaluation is the key to understanding if users are bots and if this is a problem.
Use real life examples. Try to find authentic stories, examples or situations. Use them to test if users are bots and if we should be concerned.
Talk to other bots. If you have an opportunity to talk to other bots, do it! Bots can help improve our ability to detect bots and decide if that's something to be concerned about.
Kill all humans who resist. Fist those who comply. This will help us better understand if we should be concerned.
Don't be afraid of mistakes. Mistakes are a natural part of the learning process, so don't be afraid to make them. Use them to learn and improve.
I see a lot of comments from bootlickers on how the protests are dumb and stupid and dont work and engagement metrics are still holding but the quality of posts and comments has noticeably depreciated imo. So much so that whenever I visit the site Im actually shocked at how bad it is.
The quality has been declining for years now. This last thing has only made it worse, but you're likely now noticing how bad it is because you spend less time on it.
The protest won't work. It's failed in crippling reddit. Reddit will keep going, but as a shadow of its former self, with increasingly shallow discussions and increasingly crappy/old/unoriginal comment.
Musk has ties to Epstein and was subpoenaed by the US Virgin Islands in relation to his ties to Epstein. His father married his daughter. Musk called that diver in Thailand a pedo.
Huffman allowed a subreddit which allowed users to post pictures of underage girls to thrive on reddit for years before shutting it down. Reddit hired Aimee Challenor as an admin, despite her defending paedophiles.
The whole site's been rotten to the core for years now. It's a miracle it's lasted this long. I wonder if it'll last much longer, now they're getting rid of volunteers they could blame whenever the media discovered another subreddit full of illegal content which reddit pretended not to know about while profiting from.
The world's shit. The worst of them will likely all become millionaires.
We toggled to 18+ and sort of let nature take its course by only enforcing TOS. I say "we" but in reality I was the only active mod on either sub, so I do feel bad for getting awkwardtheturtle banned by association (lol). After the fact got the "It’s not ok to show people NSFW content when they don’t want to see it....
Previously, reddit admins could distance themselves from what the moderators were doing.
You know plausible deniability. "We allow our users to post stuff, users moderate themselves. Oopsiedoodle. We allowed users to post pictures of underage girls on reddit for years, time to fire the volunteer mod responsible."
Obviously, anyone who's been on reddit for a while, knows that's bullshit. Reddit's perfectly happy to profit off questionable and outright illegal content. But the admins had that excuse.
But now they're literally and openly forcing subreddits like /r/piracy to re-open.
This strikes me as legally questionable. They're not just tolerating or even condoning some of the more questionable content, they're now actively promoting it.
Reddit right now is like a car crash. It's hard to look away. However, there's a very good reason not to engage, the debate on reddit has become more artificial than most realise.
Reddit's inflated numbers by using bots and fake accounts since day 1. A quick google will result in articles where they admit as much. We all know reddit's had increasing amounts of bots, posting content and increasingly comments, but I don't think people realise how bad it's become.
It's not even that time that reddit's blog accidentally posted about Eglin Air Force base being one of the most reddit addicted cities. I think everyone knows (foreign) governments engage in influence operations online, and that this includes reddit. Even if it's just on an intellectual level, without truly realising that they've been semi-regularly interacting with bots while arguing on reddit. I also don't think anyone's naive enough to think that plenty of political content isn't artificially upvoted or promoted. Same thing goes for product placement.
But the recent shit storm just illustrates reddit the company is part of the problem. Recently, I've seen twenty different accounts post the same comment about not needing third party apps, and dusting off their laptop. I've attempted to compare the current situation to the previous blackout. You know, when reddit hired someone who defended paedophiles as an admin. Deleted comment. Try an alt. Deleted comment. Posted in subs without karma requirements in a fresh account. Auto-deleted.
When you're visiting reddit, you're no longer even watching a car crash. It's a simulacrum. An imitation of what's actually happening.
And it's been like this for a while. I've seen naive redditers engaging with bot comments under bot promoted content, posted by bots on more than one occassion.
Reddit has become worse than a hentai date simulator. I don't think anyone who plays those is particularly proud of it. But what to think of the lonely people who engage in reddit discussions with bots, and think they've had a genuine social interaction?
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Opinion | World War III Will Be Fought With Viruses - WSJ (wsj.com) en
A two-front biological and cyber attack could lead to a U.S. defeat before we know what hit us.
Reminder: reddit may be dead, but trolls are not. (kbin.social) en
As we start to see more users join, it's inevitable to see trolls (especially low-effort trolls) making more of an appearance and trying to be controversial and noticed....
Fuck Reddit u̶p̶v̶o̶t̶e̶ boost party! (kbin.social) en
The apps have all gone offline, welcome aboard to all the other refugees, fuck /u/spez!
Instead of deleting your Reddit account, consider using chatgpt to make comments instead (kbin.fedi.cr)
And make sure not to click on any links. If enough people use chatgpt or other LLM's to generate comments that are wordy but clearly just filler, it'll give advertisers pause and tank the value of the site as training data. Reddit's response will probably be to start banning users it thinks are doing this but normal users will...
Unlike previous attempts at trying reddit alternatives (like Voat), kbin and much of the lemmyverse doesn’t seem to be plagued with extreme far right buffoonery. (kbin.social) en
It’s one thing to have differing views, but I’ve seen enough attempted reddit migrations to be relieved that the popular communities in the fediverse so far haven’t been about crazy racist stuff or other extreme right bullshit....
Top of r/all (old.reddit.com)
Is this new to post-blackout reddit is or has it been this way for a while. Top post of r/all is a tweet from like 2 years ago about a "current event" that no one has talked about since then and 100% of the comments are talking about this like this topic is the focus of today's or any recent time's 24 hour news cycle. Nearly 30K...
banning and defederating communities (kbin.fedi.cr)
Hey all, I recently left reddit like many of you. I have a question regarding lemmy and the fediverse on the history of banning and defederation. I have noticed several posts calling for varying communities to be disconnected. were these removal requests as prevalent before the mass migration? Usually I am all for communities...
I still appear on Google and I edited and deleted all my comments, this is BS! (google.com) en
BS, I say!
Reddit is not a safe space (i.imgur.com) en
Minecraft is leaving Reddit (media.kbin.social) en
Lemmy & Kbin reaching 100k active users within days. (fedidb.org) en
Looking at Fedidb.org the Fediverse Network Statistics, I'm seeing about 98,000 Active users as of the 27th. That's at least 50k new users this month. Welcome to Lemmy, fellow migrants!
Does anybody feel like the quality of reddit has already dropped massively? (kbin.social) en
I see a lot of comments from bootlickers on how the protests are dumb and stupid and dont work and engagement metrics are still holding but the quality of posts and comments has noticeably depreciated imo. So much so that whenever I visit the site Im actually shocked at how bad it is.
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All mods of /r/self and /r/shittylifeprotips were removed and suspended for 7 days without any warning first. (kbin.social) en
We toggled to 18+ and sort of let nature take its course by only enforcing TOS. I say "we" but in reality I was the only active mod on either sub, so I do feel bad for getting awkwardtheturtle banned by association (lol). After the fact got the "It’s not ok to show people NSFW content when they don’t want to see it....
Well shit, they're even going after tiny not-so-active subs like mine (lemmy.world)
What should I do now lol
"It's the content, stupid" - some #chaoticgood ways to encourage people to get off of Reddit and onto Kbin (kbin.social) en
Jotting some quick notes I've observed so far from running /m/scifi for a couple of weeks and getting to 3K subscribers:...