Nefyedardu

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Reminder that RedHat makes A LOT of money already. The results of the 2019 fiscal year show that RedHat spends twice as much money on ads and sales people than on developers. (businesswire.com) en

Our subscriptions mostly pay for the salesmen and the ads. They sell ads first, IT second. So I'm not gonna cry for RedHat. The image of the poor developers working in a cave, struggling to make money is only in our mind. They had a perfectly functional model but decided to sabotage some of it to try to squeeze even more money....

Nefyedardu,

Why is nobody talking about Oracle in all this? Oracle and Red Hat create competing products: RHEL and OEL. OEL is bug-for-bug compatible with RHEL. It's not hard to see why RH isn't a fan of paying their devs good money to develop a competing product, for free. Sure it sucks that Rocky and Alma get caught up in this as well but I feel like this is 100% a shot against Oracle.

CentOS Stream for HPC work? (kbin.social) en

I've been running an HPC system for a science group for a while now and have built a couple of different systems based on common HPC infrastructures (ROCKS or Open HPC). These have been built on top of the rebuilt RHEL distros (mostly CentOS), but I don't really need the level of stability that these provide and would actually...

Nefyedardu,

It's a misconception that Centos Stream is a rolling release. It comes in versioned releases that tracks ahead of Red Hat by a few months and have 5-year support cycles.

Nefyedardu,

I don't see how that quote means anything. It factually just isn't a rolling release model. Rolling releases are like Arch, which don't have versions and are instead continuously updated. Point releases have a versioning system in place. Centos (as the quote says) tracks ahead of Red Hat, so Centos Stream 9 released a few months before RHEL 9. In the future there will be a 10 and an 11. That makes it a point release schedule, not a rolling release schedule.

Nefyedardu,

Centos is 100%, factually not a rolling release. Rolling releases don't deploy based on version, they do it based on snapshot. That is quite literally the only defining characteristic of a rolling release and Centos does not share it. Centos deploys by version AKA a point release schedule. Centos 9. Centos 10. Centos 11. Actual rolling releases don't have this characteristic. There isn't an Arch 5, or an OpenSUSE Tumbleweed 23.1, or a Void Linux 4.8. There is just Arch, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, and Void Linux. Maybe you have Arch 2023.29.6 snapshot but that is not the same thing.

"This is in contrast to a standard or point release development model which uses software versions that must be reinstalled over the previous version."

This is exactly how Centos works. It's also how Red Hat, Ubuntu and Debian work. Are Red Hat, Ubuntu and Debian rolling releases?

Nefyedardu,

You don't lose any control, at least not in Silverblue. You are free to edit your base image and layer stuff on top of it if you wish just like any other distro. All it does is create a separate "branch" off of the ostree. It does defeat the purpose of an immutable OS though, the idea is to keep your base system as "clean" as possible so there's less surface area for bugs. But you can do it.

Nefyedardu,

? How does the decision of Red Hat effect Fedora in any way?

Nefyedardu,

For personal use you can use RHEL for free. Otherwise, you can definitely run Centos still. Sure it won't be as rock solid as RHEL but you could do far worse. The current Centos stream image is about as conservative as Debian 11 and RH devs are paid to make sure it's stable. Personally I run Fedora and Debian, it's not like there is much functional difference between distros if you use containerization.

RH can't even shut down Fedora if they wanted, it's a community project. I don't see what they would have against Fedora, it gives them free beta testing and development for their products.

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