hoodatninja

hoodatninja, hace 11 meses

I get the sentiment but I’ve also seen decent media coverage of it and I’m sure many folks googled what was happening as a result, especially since twitch was more formally involved this time. I know the German word for “son of a whore” surged in google searches so that’s something lol

Does it drive traffic? Yeah. Does it make Huffman seethe? He’s childish and thin skinned so probably lol

hoodatninja, hace 11 meses

It’s also just incredibly boneheaded. The API changes happened three weeks ago. People have not forgotten, they are still removing/threatening mods even today, hell there are almost 2000 subs still protesting. And now they give people a microphone during an incredibly public event that they coordinated with twitch?

Steve is not the only idiot at Reddit right now.

hoodatninja, hace 1 año

I deleted my posts/comment history, resigned as a mod, and logged out for good. The best protest you can do is leave at this point. Anything short of private, restricted, or NSFW-abuse only serves to drive traffic for them and allows them to continue to serve ads.

The John Oliver idea was clever but should have stopped after he responded. It is now only driving traffic to the site and giving them classic “haha isn’t the internet funny?” free marketing on news outlets. They’ve even explicitly said in interviews they don’t mind it at all. That’s not a protest. No one is upset to see John Oliver memes on one sub and be in on the joke.

hoodatninja, hace 1 año

That’s the blackout writ large. It says nothing about the pics protest specifically. Going private/NSFW has done by far the most damage as indicated by the admins swift and angry response to it. No one on /r/pics has been removed as mod over this. Dozens of others have.

hoodatninja, hace 1 año

I feel like maybe we are talking at cross purposes and possibly agree but that there is some misunderstanding over my original point.

Both of your articles are showing that going private and other tactics had a depressing effect on Reddit traffic, neither of these articles talk about pics and John Oliver, which is specifically what I was saying is ineffective. The articles are talking about the impact on traffic by subs going private, which means they do not come up in searches and they can’t run ads. I agree with the articles, hence why I said subs should go private/restricted/NSFW if they want to actually protest. In addition, users should consider not participating/mods should resign outside of specific cases such as NSFW abuse and highlighting the API changes.

From my earlier comment:

Anything short of private, restricted, or NSFW-abuse only serves to drive traffic for them and allows them to continue to serve ads.

hoodatninja, hace 1 año

I agree it’s odd but there’s a reason the sub I moderated wasn’t contacted in the opening days by the admins yet smaller ones that went private did!

If you track what the admins reacted to and didn’t it paints a very clear picture of what hits their revenue and what doesn’t.

hoodatninja, hace 1 año

Yeah. It is odd. Why would they not go after restricted if restricted means they lose ad money?

Restricted does not stop ad revenue. It just means no new content, which depresses traffic. We get "insights" as mods and we saw a drop in user traffic after we went restricted. It was trending downward, but I no longer have access to it as I have resigned so even if I wanted to I can't show you the data points.

Anyways they removed the mods of r/TIHI for leaving the sub private, but then shut it down for being unmoderated. Where's the revenue in that? I'm not confident at this point that reddit has an accurate picture of what's costing it money yet.

The mod team was clearly not willing to play ball, so the only option for the admins - seeing as how they are clearly unwilling to compromise at all - is to remove the problem mods as they see them. The most obvious targets are those that are currently impacting traffic/ad revenue, as adweek demonstrated was a very real problem the moment subs went private en masse.

Finally, not hearing about more subs going NSFW but from the second article, ad traffic is still going down. So I think NSFW can not be the only driver of profitless traffic.

Never said NSFW was the only driver so not really sure how to respond to this.

it probably is reasonable to conclude that private and NSFW are the biggest revenue losers,

Agreed. And yes I definitely agree the only real option is to leave, as my original comment said! I'm not really sure what we are disagreeing about at the end of the day lol

hoodatninja, hace 1 año

Appreciate your elaborating. I think the confusion about NSFW boils down to my meaning “or” and it coming off as “and.”

The problem with the John Oliver protest is that now it’s basically a game. In theory, if they did it long enough, people could get tired of it, but they aren’t there yet. And what made me become skeptical of it is that the Admins specifically said in an interview a few days ago that it doesn’t bother them in the slightest. They seem to enjoy it. Which is not what what we want.

hoodatninja, hace 1 año

13 years the day the blackout started. Deleted it today on my birthday :) no regrets!

hoodatninja, hace 1 año

without defining the latter term

Which is why many of us rolled our eyes and ignored the statement as usual lol