Hot take: 18 years of user contributions to reddit will serve as a base model for an AI that generates content and conversations. the reddit experience continues as a simulation, to harvest clicks, sales and ad revenue. en (kbin.social)

most of the time you'll be talking to a bot there without even realizing. they're gonna feed you products and ads interwoven into conversations, and the AI can be controlled so its output reflects corporate interests. advertisers are gonna be able to buy access and run campaigns. based on their input, the AI can generate thousands of comments and posts, all to support your corporate agenda.

for example you can set it to hate a public figure and force negative commentary into conversations all over the site. you can set it to praise and recommend your latest product. like when a pharma company has a new pill out, they'll be able to target self-help subs and flood them with fake anecdotes and user testimony that the new pill solves all your problems and you should check it out.

the only real humans you'll find there are the shills that run the place, and the poor suckers that fall for the scam.

it's gonna be a shithole.

meggied90,

This isn’t going to happen in the future.

It’s happening right now.

Bots are already engaging with users and pushing narratives. The percentage of Reddit that is inorganic is probably higher than most people would expect.

esc27,

We need better solutions for proving identity online. Email, capcha, etc. are insufficient. I imagine a system similar to the certificate authority system, where you prove your identity to one of many trusted identity providers and then that provider vouches for you when you sign up for other services (while also protecting you anonymity.)

fiah,
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the protecting your anonymity part would be very hard though, such a system has a high risk of eventually enabling a dystopian future where your every online move is being monitored by big brother

I was thinking that a mandatory donation to a charity could work. Like a simple $5 donation per account to any of a (carefully curated) list of charities. It would dramatically throttle new account creation / app adoption, of course, which is bad, but if a potential user wants it bad enough then they’d be OK with donating $5 to their favorite charity. It would reduce the number of bots / trolls / Sybils and it could work in a decentralized manner (imaging a lemmy instance doing this)

Cube6392,

In a seedy back alley bar, an identity broker checks his bank accounts as a man enters the front door. In his pocket, the man entering the bar carries a uSD card. He sits down across from the broker and sets the card on the vinyl table-top.

“PGP or minisign,” asks the broker, without looking up from his data pad.

“PGP,” responds the man, looking over his shoulder, back at the door, nervously.

The broker looks up, assesses the man, and says, “These older protocols cost extra, you know, you don't look like you have the credits.”

“Look, I just need to prove I'm human by the end of tonight, or else The Outlaws are going to put a tire iron between my eyes for not being able to get them the goods they've asked for.”

“The problem,” the broker said, before taking a long pull from his tobacco nebulizer, “Is that the AI bots are getting harder and harder to tell from the humans in this city. Technology has come a long way since Greenville became a coastal town"

The man looks back at the broker, realization dawning on him about what's about to happen. The gun which usually lived its days taped under the booth was now pointed at the man. “Typically, I wouldn't do this, but I don't like The Outlaws. I'm not going to lose business over that, though. But I work for The Bastards mostly. I know you don't work for them directly. You got mixed up in all this, didn't you? Nevertheless. In this one case, the cruelty is the point.”

Most of the inhabitants of the bar jumped as the pistol cracked, but made a point not to look over at the booth in the corner.

“Hmm… Yes… Blood. I should have your identity confirmed within the hour. I would wish you luck on your purchase, but frankly I wouldn't mind if you failed,” says the broker, sliding the uSD card into a slot just to the side of his right eye

techno156,

Have you never been to /r/SubSim2Interactive?

Although you have to wonder how much advertisers would actually pony up if most of the Reddit users weren't actual users at all. They want people to do the clicking, and if the users are all bots, they're likely not going to bother wasting their money at that point.

TWeaK,

r/subredditsimulator takes over reddit.

Kichae,

Content will be used to train bots, yes, but it probably won't be Reddit doing it, and they likely won't be offering bots as a service.

Instead, they'll sell access to the API to people training LLMs, and sell it again to people who want to use bots on the site. They can split API access into bulk read, and read/write packages so that people can't double-dip. Then they'll let people monetize subreddits, directly incentivising bot access and usage.

PabloDiscobar,
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Reminder to y'all that @astroturfing is open for visiting.

ulu_mulu,
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They're already doing that, it's why reddit went down the drain, not suddenly but progressively over the last years.

It can only get worse, I'm so happy the protest made aware of alternatives so I can be here instead.

Maxstone,

Maybe I guess
But that doesn't seem will be too popular with advertisers considering it can go the other way too

style99,
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The larger subs are already starting to become a war between different groups of spammers. The smaller subs can get by for now, but when the war in the larger subs gets to the extent that spammers start needing to branch out, they'll likely invade the smaller subs, as well.

AnonymousLlama,
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Never underestimate the power of negative energy, plenty of people flock to also dump on things they don't like, it's a great way to drive engagement (albeit shitty engagement)

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