I literally just looked at Reddit for the first time in ages.
What the fuck.
Here's the thing: Reddit's UI design has always been shitty. Old Reddit was fucking garbage, so admins cheerfully asked RES folks to fix their shit. (Instead of, you know, hiring them.) New Reddit? Always been shit, and nobody's going to fix it.
This Newer New Reddit? I... I don't think they even know at this point. What. What's going on.
If they ask critique from the community, some AI bot will AI-pat the admin's arse and AI-splain the remaining AI-users that things will be just fine. (Now, "things actually getting better" has literally never happened as far as Reddit or its user interface has ever been concerned, as you should well know if you've ever been a human Reddit user.)
I typically don't encounter any communities from instances like lemmygrad here, maybe I will if I actually search for them but as it is on Kbin it's been pretty nice here.
Sturgeon’s Law applies: 90% of everything is crap.
Reddit’s value has never been in the “average redditor” or the “popular subs”. The real value is in the niche tail of communities and the fact that they have such a massive amount of people that even if “only” 10% of their users were decent people, it still meant that they had enough decent people to talk with something to contribute.
All in all, this is just to say that our problem should not be about “Reddit users”. Our problem should be with Reddit management. The threadiverse is still incredibly boring. Things here are mostly meta-conversations and there is little to no original content here. The way to solve this will be by bringing more people here. A lot more.
I had been on Reddit for 10+ years and never went near the ‘popular’ subs and I always had a great experience. I also didn’t go around trying to pick fights and also just ignored anything I didn’t like, so I was able to avoid almost all negative interactions.
Edit to add: I completely agree with you, if it wasn’t clear lol
Reddit’s value has never been in the “average redditor” or the “popular subs”. The real value is in the niche tail of communities and the fact that they have such a massive amount of people that even if “only” 10% of their users were decent people, it still meant that they had enough decent people to talk with something to contribute.
Yeah, I don't use Reddit any longer, but it was really great that there were active subs devoted to incredibly obscure topics. If you wanted to talk about something, chances were that thousands of other people did too.
Yeah, they made a complete 3D Snoo. You can see it here. I think it's fine for the most part. It's just that the open smile that they used for the logo just doesn't work that well imo.
I think if most people genuinely liked these features, you'd see people say that more when they're being discussed. What's more likely (and what I see way more often) is the second thing you mentioned: that most people don't really care and just go on with life. But if most users don't care, it again begs the question of why waste time making these changes at all. It seems like it's just to keep the UI design team busy more than anything.
I’ve only ever lurked on reddit and here I’m actually interacting, which I enjoy. Still, the feddiverse would profit from some more users and content creators, and it doesn’t really have an advertisment budget. So keep telling your friends (in a non-anoying way, of course).
Yes, somehow the barrier to actually engaging with others is lost in the fediverse. The guilt of posting on Reddit has been swapped by some strange feeling of obligation and/or pride when posting on here.
I’ve cut out half my lemmy use because of the political extremism on here from Hexbear and Lemmygrad. Lemmy.ml isn’t all that much better. I’m not the only one drifting away because of it.
Hang in there. I’ve heard word that soon users will have the ability to block entire instances. Personally, I’ve just blocked every Hexbear account on sight, and it seems to be improving my experience. I’ve also started to unsub from .ml communities, since I’ve noticed the same things you have.
I think it will make a huge difference. Personally, I never understand why defederation is frowned upon. There are some instances that are just so toxic that they don’t deserve to be heard.
For the record, I’m a bit of a political extremist myself being an anarchist, but the users that I dislike are people who dunk on you without even giving you a chance, and political opinions that excuse things like authoritarianism and genocide. There’s a lot of that on hexbear, lemmygrad, and even .ml
i gave up months ago trying to get people OFF reddit and 'defeating' reddit will never, ever happen. i say this as someone who 'led' a big part of the boycott. i had a 3k member boycott server and dedicated weeks to the movement. the most we can do is post and try to grow and naturally attract people to kbin/the fediverse. dont make it about beating reddit, make it about making kbin amazing in it's own right, being the best it can be, beating who it was yesterday.
i totally agree with you, though, it's about content and interactions which there is a SEVERE lack of. people complain about that, then they don't post in the mags, and i know not everyone is a content creator but if you want kbin to succeed then you gotta put a little effort in. a singular post, a singular comment, is better than none. its so draining being a mod and being the only fucking one posting lol, you'd know, as youre the primary poster on your scifi mag.
I've enjoyed my time on the fediverse but have been disappointed with the leveling off of growth and lack of participation in niche communities. I still visit Kbin several times weekly, but it isn't like the old days when I would spend tons of time on Reddit. I have left my old Reddit account redacted and haven't started using it again, as that time is over. There are some communities and niche interests that unfortunately, it looks like Reddit will always be the main home for since we didn't hit the critical mass for people to move those communities over here. Because of that, I've started a new reddit account (with my real name attached, and started actively participating in those communities). For me, Reddit is no longer a place to anonymously participate in community discussions (because those discussions were becoming increasingly worthless alot of the time), but a place to participate with my IRL identity in communities related to topics or hobbies I care about. The anonymous community stuff is fulfilled by Kbin/Fediverse which I prefer now.
agree here. growth dipping and lack of participation pushed me away a bit. i didn't mind it being small, but when i saw i was the only one in my communities ever contributing content, i felt discouraged.
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