He acted like he was doing us all a favor, and acting like he was a charity. Reddit doesn't even need much bandwidth or resources as it's a text site essentially. They're still making a lot of profit.
He doesn't acknowledge that Reddit's value is in the community. Reddit themselves are their content. They basically just admin the servers and throw ads up. Spaz isn't exactly contributing thousands of articles, but lots of people are
They don't pay mods. But finally, when the mods get fed up with Reddit, he took credit for their hardwork by hijacking those communities when they objected
He went full Elon.. And...
He went full Trump when he accused the Apollo developer of blackmailing him. If he wasn't lying, he would have posted more of the conversation. The apollo developer should actually sue him for trying to damage his reputation
Finally, the beauty of the fediverse is that we can choose our community. Whereas, Reddit decides if they want to allow toxic communities and people. The toxicity from FatPeopleHate, TheDonald and femaleDatingStategy ended up spilling over into all of the other communities over time, as they allowed those communities to flourish (and eventually I believe into real life)
I actually deleted my main 7+ year old account (no idea exactly how old) a few months ago on Reddit, because it had grown too toxic there. Really happy with Beehaw, and really excited to see where Lemmy / KBin ends up in a few years time. Already donated to Beehaw
The toxicity from FatPeopleHate, TheDonald and femaleDatingStategy ended up spilling over into all of the other communities over time, as they allowed those communities to flourish
Ironically, 3rd party apps like Sync allowed you to block entire subreddits from appearing on your r/all feed. I used that feature a lot to block out junk subreddits that I have zero interest in.
I think it's just changed over time. Reddit was really different ten years ago. Posts by the admins about changes or their actions regarding drama were more common for example.
Ever since Reddit threw Ellen Pao under the bus to make all those controversial changes in 2014, Reddit has never returned to that same level of quality. I remember when they changed the algorithm around that time to some trash version of what it used to be. I used to see world events before anyone else heard about them. After that change it took days for anything relevant to show up in my front page.
Agreed. Reddit mods need to see a sinking ship for what it is and work to migrate their communities to software that actually appreciates what they do. Reddit wants to capitalize on labor of love the mods perform.
Screw Reddit, I've already posted more on kbin/the fediverse than I have since the algorithm changes years ago
After Reddit's response to the blackout protests, what made those moderators think Reddit is going to act nice? The mask has already been dropped, Reddit, represented by Steve Huffman, has already shown their true colors. Anyone who'd willingly trust them after what they've done is just flat out asking for pain.
Having said that, maybe those mods are trying their best to keep whatever semblance of "the old status quo" that might still be left. I also am guessing there's some kind of a psychological trauma thing at play here with them choosing to stay with an entity that has shown its willingness to use and abuse them, even painting them as villains. Sure, it's not a simple thing to just leave--after all of the effort they've exerted taking care of their subreddits. But they've got to realize sometimes, the best move is to just leave, even at the cost of everything they've got left.
I highly doubt Reddit is going to bend on this. They want those third-party apps gone, and that ridiculous pricing is how they’re doing it. They also think that they’ve won. They don’t have any incentive to change.
So what happens if Reddit doesn't comply to their requests?
Last time mods did a protest by making subreddits private, Reddit threatened to kick them out of moderation at that made most mods just shut up and comply.
Now mods have absolutely no leverage against the admins. I don't sympathize with Reddit, but I lost all sympathy for mods too. They should simply do what we all did, and hop off Reddit for once. Sadly, they care more about their "mod powers" than anything else.
I think some just take a bit longer to leave the communities b they build behind and still try to fix reddit. there will probably be a longer exodus of mods when they realise after July 1st that their communities aren’t the same they used to.
of course there will always be bootlickers as well.
The fact that I'm commenting on a post is something I would never of done on reddit means kbin is my new home. I've nuked my 15yr old account and there's no reason to go back.
I love reading and writing, replying and interacting. The quality of discourse around here has been excellent so far, the right kind of people have migrated here.
Fully granted that there are many topics in which I'd love to see more activity, but the space is young. Neither Rome nor Reddit were built in a day.
Also, a way to keep track of conversations, an unobtrusive notification and a direct link to the spot in any given thread.
I actually deleted my main account on Reddit a few months back because the toxicity in any comment I posted started to weigh me down (even in the r/Australia sub, it became clear that a lot of people there likely weren't Australian).
I've noticed things have degraded even more there in the past week, and in the Aussie subs, most of them have gone fully toxic.
Idk, I acknowledge it must be a pain in the ass to know whether you can call someone the equivalent of "dude" or not, but I feel like that one's fair. When you recognize something utterly mundane is a high insult in someone else's culture, you kinda stop using it towards them unless you intend the insult.
I sure as shit wouldn't just drop the honorifics with a middle eastern/asian stranger or walk around their house in street shoes just because doing so is unremarkable where I'm from.
Honestly, at this point I don't see any coming back from this. It's been a damned good effort, but Reddit isn't going to back down at this point. The mods are going to have to put up with it or leave. I'd hope they'd leave, but honestly I don't think there's going to be a mass exodus of moderators.
Yeah to say that these requests will fall on deaf ears would be an understatement. If Reddit has shown us anything throughout this debacle it’s that they will always do the wrong thing.
I know, it was deliciously scathing. This kind of integrity is how you get new readers, I think. Wonder what things would have been like had spez attended that day of kindergarten
