Mane25

@Mane25@feddit.uk

Este perfil es de un servidor federado y podría estar incompleto. Explorar más contenido en la instancia original.

Mane25,

Blaming spambots is one thing, but whoever set up this community should lock it if they’re not going to mod it because there are loads of spam messages here that haven’t been dealt with in days. It’s a pretty bad look. I’m unsubscribing but I also want to add shame on whoever set this up and abandoned it because it reflects poorly on the fediverse.

Mane25,

OK, then he should lock it, it’s spamming my feed, maybe I should move to something defederated with Kbin. No moderation is dangerous.

Mane25,

Also I’ve discovered there has already been this request:

kbin.social/m/science/t/432479

This user @ernest has logged in since then and posted on the platform, (therefore is not an inactive user) but has ignored both the moderation requests and the spam here. Again, I understand the limitations of one person, but a community can’t operate under those circumstances.

Mane25,

It’s a good name and I’ve heard it proposed before, I think the real problem is it’s too close to Meta’s new platform (Threads). Since that company has already co-opted “metaverse”, and is threatening to invade our fediverse, I think it’s too vulnerable to name anything “threadiverse” at the moment.

readbeanicecream, a science en
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Sick of hearing about record heat? Scientists say those numbers paint the story of a warming world: With a summer of extreme weather records dominating the news, meteorologists and scientists say records like these give a glimpse of the big picture: a warming planet caused by climate change. https://phys.org/news/2023-07-sick-scientists-story-world.html

Mane25,

My instinct, as a non-expert, is that what we should really be looking at is rolling-average trends rather than records, to minimise cherry-picking. Stories about records, rightly or wrongly, come across as sensationalist and potentially misleading. Am I wrong?

Mane25,

It could so easily be manipulated by Reddit in their favour - I can just imagine admins fixing themselves extra pixels so our areas get mysteriously vandalised. It’s their game and their rules I think it’s best to just stay out of it.

Mane25,

I like the name fediverse, but I think it’s too broad. I think we need a collective name for platforms like Lemmy and KBin (which are more like each other than they are like Mastodon).

Mane25,

Much too problematic with Meta’s new platform.

Mane25,

No, “forums” are old style message boards from back when the internet was good, that people stopped using for some reason. If KBin/Lemmy can one day be half as good as real forums I’d consider that to be a success.

Mane25,

I was being slightly tongue-in-cheek with my nostalgia there, with some truth to it as well, but if anything it’s something intangible. KBin and Lemmy haven’t developed a culture yet, in my opinion a lot of damage has been done to online culture by the big centralised social media networks, and it remains to be seen if something good emerges here or whether the toxicity of modern social media creeps back in.

I personally wouldn’t worry about the political beliefs of the Lemmy developers, it’s open source software, anyone can use it and run an instance. Each instance sets its own content and moderation policies and decides who it federates with. There are over 1000 instances. The developers have made it clear that they don’t want their instance to be seen as the default one and discouraged people from registering there during the influx from Reddit.

Mane25,

It sounds interesting but I don’t think you can discern anything from a headline in isolation, without knowing the source and its biases and the context. I tried taking the test but gave up because short of actually knowing the topic each one would be a 50-50 guess.

Mane25,

But I wouldn’t believe or reject any of them based on the headline alone, the true answer for most of them is “I don’t know / can’t know”. They all sound equally plausible to someone with no knowledge of the topic.

Mane25,

“Tornado rearranges DC highway into giant peace sign” could happen, theoretically, but it’s very unlikely to.

That would be an example where I can apply my existing knowledge, I know enough about tornados, highways, and peace signs to know that’s statistically improbable.

Whereas “Government appoints new head of some environmental division” I don’t know, sounds perfectly reasonable and plausible, but I couldn’t possibly say. In real life I could reason that a newspaper would have no reason to make up something so mundane (that’s why context is important), but knowing this is a test with fake answers makes it random chance.

Mane25,

I gave up when I realised the test was meaningless. There are a few I could tell were almost definitely false based on existing knowledge, but the rest would be 50/50 choices.

Undisclosed, a RedditMigration en

I've heard a few people say that they don't use reddit apps anymore and only access reddit via old.reddit. Could someone explain to me how that resolves the "morality issue"? Isn't that still traffic and aren't they still getting money? Is it less money somehow?

Mane25,

I suppose if you use old Reddit and block ads they’re not making money directly but it’s still traffic.

I always used old Reddit anyway, I left because it turned to shit not because of a particular app.

Mane25,

It’s weird, I always thought the “power hungry mods” thing was a bit of a running joke spread by people who’d been annoyed about a mod decision or two - it’s really surprised me how true it’s been proven to be and how many actually folded when threatened to be removed.

Mane25,

But from that post:

They’ve told the media that they are actively planning to remove moderators who keep subreddits shut down and have no intentions of making changes.

So, moving forward, we’re going to run IAmA like your average subreddit. We will continue moderating, removing spam, and enforcing rules. Many of the current moderation team will be taking a step back, but we’ll recruit people to replace them as needed.

That doesn’t sound to me like they’re quitting, that sounds to me like they’ll protest but support Reddit for as much as it takes to still be moderators.

Unlike previous attempts at trying reddit alternatives (like Voat), kbin and much of the lemmyverse doesn’t seem to be plagued with extreme far right buffoonery. (kbin.social) en

It’s one thing to have differing views, but I’ve seen enough attempted reddit migrations to be relieved that the popular communities in the fediverse so far haven’t been about crazy racist stuff or other extreme right bullshit....

Mane25,

They don’t have that power, they don’t control most of the instances, if they do that on their own instances that’s up to them. They couldn’t even secretly embed anything in the code to push an agenda since it’s open source.

Mane25,

There’s no “official instance”, it’s free software - lemmy.ml isn’t even a recommended instance at join-lemmy.org .

It’s you that’s perpetuating that association.

You can’t base your software choices on whether or not you agree with their creators political beliefs or else you won’t use anything. The creator of Javascript has expressed controversial opinions about same-sex marriage and most of the web uses it.

Mane25,

That’s because it’s a popular instance.

Feel free to use what you like, of course, that’s the beauty of the fediverse, but I don’t understand what you’re hung up about now having explained it to you.

What was the subreddit that represented to you the best example of downspiral of quality? To me it was /r/dataisbeautiful (kbin.social) en

At first it was all about presenting data in an original looking way. In the end it was about pushing political ideas in your throat using a plain bar graph. It was not about sharing something interesting you found but about taking advantage of a captive audience.

Mane25,

r/mapporn for me. Originally it was for beautiful high quality, high-resolution maps - the standard was so high that I would have been scared to post anything myself unless I found something exceptional, but eventually it became mainly low-quality (and usually inaccurate) data maps that all get mass-upvoted for some reason.

Mane25,

Worse than ignore it, mostly they seemed to upvote it which is what drove me crazy. Unless there were huge numbers of upvote bots as well.

Mane25,

16:31 is just the length of the video - could you give the actual timestamp of the science?

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