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HubertManne

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I am very typical earthling. I like earth food and earth drink and earth sports and earth media. Im all about earth things because I am so typical and earthling. so typical as to be very boring and not worth investigating or looking into because I am definately from earth.

Este perfil es de un servidor federado y podría estar incompleto. Explorar más contenido en la instancia original.

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which makes their name ironic. What happens to free users that already are above 50?

HubertManne,
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thanks. this is good.

Scientist, after decades of study, concludes: We don't have free will (phys.org) en

Before epilepsy was understood to be a neurological condition, people believed it was caused by the moon, or by phlegm in the brain. They condemned seizures as evidence of witchcraft or demonic possession, and killed or castrated sufferers to prevent them from passing tainted blood to a new generation.

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Assuming his hypothesis is true I find this rediculous from the article:

"The world is really screwed up and made much, much more unfair by the fact that we reward people and punish people for things they have no control over," Sapolsky said. "We've got no free will. Stop attributing stuff to us that isn't there."

How is it made more so. We have no free will over how we reward or punish people. If the world is screwed up and his hypothesis correct then its exactly as screwed up as its supposed to be and our lack of decision neither make it worse or better. It just is.

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whats sad is it does not need to be. gridcoin has a steady value based on the grid computing it provides (outside of a brief spike when idiots where buying anything labled as crypto). As far as I know its the only example where the value has any meaning.

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Can you be a bit more specific. Top or bottom?

HubertManne,
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still have not done it. still have not recieved my data. got to get off my ass and email complain to them and maybe look to see how to make a gdpr complaint or how long before they are in violation

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I don't want the fediverse to replace reddit. I just want a place to post and share stuff without corpo baggage.

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Its sorta funny because I was having a back and forth about how I would like blocking to go both ways where I don't see their stuff but they also do not see my stuff. I have gotten many replies saying, hey, you can't change their feed. But folks removing reddit comments technically are changing folks feeds in the same way.

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The bastards stole their power from the victims of the Us v Them years, wrecking all things virtuous and true
The undermining social democratic downhill slide into abysmal. The lost lamb off the precipice into the trickle down runoff pool...

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Im copying/pasting something I said on another thread but it applies here. Its what I would like to ultimately have in the federation:

I am a free speech absolutist and I want pretty much anything to go but I want the tools for users to be able to block it in any manner they want from blocking users to blocking magazines to blocking domains and I want it to include comments and actually go both ways (joke not intended but right after I wrote that I liked it). When I block something I don't want that person, place, or thing to see any of my comments or posts. If I blocked them its a good chance its folks that might try doxing or some shit. I would like blockers to know who or what they blocked so they can undo if they choose but I don't want blockees to know. I would like profiles to be only seeable by logged in users and I would like usernames and such masked for folks not logged in. I realize this is a lot and its not here now and that some folks may hate the idea of what I write here but that is how I would like to see something like this go. As much power as possible brought to individual consumers to prune their feeds and as much freedom as possible for creators.

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well I wouldn't expect it to in that circumstance. I just want the most out of what it could do. Stalkers going to that extreme will always get the way around to some degree. I just don't want it easy for them to notice and honestly I would prefer in the long run they not exactly advertise that stuff but just have it be the way it is and someone would have to look into it to know blocking works both ways. It will certainly cut down on the casual jerk. Jerk being a realtive term to the individual. To me a system like that would approach more what organically happens in life. You hang with those you like and avoid those you don't.

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im not saying blocking from responding im saying I disapear to them and they to me. they can still respond and other folks I did not block would see it and possibly my last one. I would be the one unable to respond as I would not get notified of their response and no longer see it. I guess I would not expect any previous conversations that are in their notifications to necessarily disapear as thats already in their profile. I responded to someone on the doxing thing. I just want to get rid of low hanging fruit. Ultimately I just don't want to be in the same virtual universe as them. I know it does not sound like it from this convo but I don't block user often but when I do I really just don't want anything to do with that person even incidentally.

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this sounds a bit like arguments I have had on this about it will create echo chambers. its up to lurkers to curate their own feeds and echo chambers will always be there. I want the ability to cut bs out of my stuff and others to do the same and I want freedom for creators to make what they want. Im sorry if it means bad stuff will be out there but that ship has sailed anyway. The more we get to something like this the more I think bad ideas will fall to obscurity. I really don't see how blocking shit out is open to more abuse than shoveling the shit out. Honestly one thing I would hope with something like this is that I would need to filter less because hopefully some folks blocking me would increase the quality of my feed.

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I respect that but for me I want to get away from these people in all ways. I go to a bar and because of a few assholes I stop going even though there are some folks I like. There is no way around it. Technology holds the promise to be able to stay at the bar. Making others invisible to me but not becoming invisible to them is in some ways sorta scary. Especially when you consider im not looking to make folks invisible only some. A good example is I like discourse but if someone response is something like "well then stop being a jerk you pussy", well that is not the discourse I want so I block them. I don't see thier brilliant responses to my discourses now but as you say lurkers do or whatever. That is polluting my discourse and I did not want to talk with this person anymore. I really don't know how to convey this honestly but anyway I don't think mine is the end all be all its just what I would want and I totally get others not wanting it. Ultimately I will take half a loaf like most things in the world but I would leave for an instance that has what I want in an instant.

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See thats the thing. I don't block individuals willy nilly. I curate heaviest from the top down. Also I think what your talking about only happens at the point of the block. In the long run it just curates the content. The real problem, like pretty much all the problems, is folks doing wierd stuff like making multiple accounts and playing around with the system. But that kinda thing has issues all the time. Individuals can act like their own bots with multiple accounts upvoting/boosting and downvoting and having discusions among themselvs. Our really only defense against it is the individuals ability to currate to the max. At least in my opinion. I wonder how much this comes down to viewpoint. I am thinking of this very much selfishly from my own experience and what I want to get out of this. Thinking just now are you thinking more in terms of the community at large? My hope with the federation is instance allow for both theoretically. So I could ultimately live in my shadow banning heaven that federates with every thing while some folks will have less extreme things but the instance will defederate content to protevt them a bit and whatever. Maybe some better form of up and downvoting will happen too.

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fair enough. I guess what I mean is I want the toxic individuals cut completely out of my (virtual) life. I don't want to post for them to troll. I don't want them part of a conversation im replying in. I don't even necessarily see this as ever happening as it is a big ask. Im just saying what would to me be the ideal. I don't want to listen to these folks or talk to them. I essentially want the amish shunning system but on an individually controlled basis.

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not really. I really don't want any interaction anymore generally so I would like them to not even see my comments. I realize its a big ask and quite likely something that will never happen but that would be the ideal for me. Not just comments but posts. They can reply to someone elses post on the same topic. I for all practical purposes would like to cease to exist for the person and vice versa. Don't see thier posts or comments or anything.

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yeah I generally am not looking to win. I consider some of the best discourse to be when someone changes my mind. I don't block people though to end a converstation. I just stop replying. blocking was becuase the person just replies with insults and just generally behaves badly. So its not about a particular discourse but about just wanting to be completely seperated from anyone like that.

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yeah honestly I see the communities votes as somewhat a tool if there is a lot to go through but another aspect I would like is for it to weight votes. I can't login in anymore so I have no idea how the project is going but wts2 had where you can put a trust score for users 0-100 based on how your like their content or comments. That is exciting to me to as I would prefer the feed to be based on my opinion of the quality of peoples stuff rather they have generally garned through gamification on the community system.

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The exchanges I have had here are like rare good ones I have had on reddit. If it gets to popular that will likely change but hey lets enjoy it while we can.

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if you have to be paid for speech its not free speech.

HubertManne,
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yeah but not paying you for speech is not restricting you freedom to do it.

HubertManne,
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Free speech also does not mean right to have your opinion disseminated by others.

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they have not even completed my data request yet

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I put in my data request and they are claiming it could take a month. As such I have been on it but only to follow up on that and i made someone a mod of a sub since I announce I was leaving but not "really" on it. Don't surf it. Can't wait to delete my comments after the data request and will repeat that for awhile. unfortunately I like will not delete the account for like a year given the way things are going with comments being reinstated.

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