Niello

@Niello@kbin.social

Este perfil es de un servidor federado y podría estar incompleto. Explorar más contenido en la instancia original.

Reddit Activity Plummeted After The Protests - by Adam Bumas (garbageday.email) en

Last month marked the official end of the Reddit protests. Any subreddit that had changed its rules or gone dark — or forced its users to post exclusively about John Oliver — has now gone back to normal. On the surface, it seems like a complete victory for Reddit, but things aren’t so simple when a major element of that...

Niello,

I've also seen some mentions of it being caused by the new API changes messing with the tracking so not allposts and comments are counted. Anyone has better insight on this?

Niello,

If I have never used Reddit before and experience it the first time by seeing that I'm sure I'd just delete the app right then and there.

Niello,

He's on kbin, maybe he's collecting negative reputation.

Niello,

Do you happen to have the link to that part?

Niello,

Just my guess, but the timing may partially has something to do with believing a recession is coming.

Niello,

On the other hand, I think Fediverse is perfect for companies that want to be closer to their customers, as rare as that may be.

Another possible use case if Fediverse become popular enough is potential for companies like Nintendo setting up their own instance as the new Miiverse or something.

Niello,

There was a discussion on karma some days ago, if anyone want a read. https://lemmy.world/post/590386

TL;DR consensus is mostly karma is the source of quite a number of problems on Reddit and many people are comfortable with not having them back. There are positives, but the system has to be reworked for it to really work to any capacity that doesn't negatively affect the platform.

Personally, I don't look at karma. I barely even checked other people's user page and I only went on my own page to look for my previous comments.

Niello,

Actually, they should be reported. Don't just scroll pass if you see harassment or hate speech.

Niello,

That'd require you to not be a hypocrite though. If not for disagreeing, then for what reason did you downvote my comment?

Niello,

So you downvoted because you used it as a disagree button. End of story then?

Anyway, let's put that aside and discuss. How is it destructive? If there is a troll harassing a user then is ignoring it better than reporting the troll? How so?

Let me give you a concrete example. This guy exists https://kbin.social/u/WorldKnows45Won/comments
Why should the comment he called the other guy "retard" not be reported? Not only that, the same guy made troll posts sprading misinformation like Trump winning the 2020 election, so it's clear it isn't just a one time thing either. And in the future when there are more bots and troll accounts running around, why would not reporting them be the better option?

Niello,

So if someone make a wrong accusation of someone else or if they make a death threat or doxx someone the comment should just stay up. Am I hearing your position correctly?

And I think you missing something. People perceptions are different and they aren't necessarily "correct", yours and mine included. Report doesn't automatically remove someone, but it does allow admins and mods to see it, in other word, get a third party to look at it. Multiple reports also mean more people thinking this is harmful. Just because you don't agree with other people's perception doesn't mean they are wrong and you're right or vice versa. Not to mention that certain kinds of harassments and hate speeches directly break the ToS.

Furthermore, reporting != banning. Reporting on a comment is the voice in that comment is listened to, and it's been decided that it's harmful.

Niello,

I think it's nice to have a spectrum of agreement on "this is okay", as long as we don't stray into the more universally agreed "this is not okay". It's probably one of the more robust ways to decide where to draw the line when in reality a hard line doesn't exist.

Niello,

Imo, more emphasis should have been made on how spez treated Christian, the Apolla dev. It's honestly disgusting. And not even any kind of apology or direct reply. Spez just went on to smear Christian's name more with disinformation he fed to the press via interviews.

Niello,

The people in that subreddit seem pretty cringe and whiny. Some of them will quietly eat their word in the not so distant future when Lemmy and Kbin has more useful features than Reddit as Reddit keeps going down hill.

Unlike previous attempts at trying reddit alternatives (like Voat), kbin and much of the lemmyverse doesn’t seem to be plagued with extreme far right buffoonery. (kbin.social) en

It’s one thing to have differing views, but I’ve seen enough attempted reddit migrations to be relieved that the popular communities in the fediverse so far haven’t been about crazy racist stuff or other extreme right bullshit....

Niello,

Definitely smarter than the group that thinks Trump should be a president and tries to deny science at every turn. You don't need me to tell you which group it is that denied global warming, denied the existence of covid-19, denied universal healthcare, host the Nazis and white supremacists, and so on, do you?

And when confronted with these kinds of questions the typical reaction is to ignore it or make excuses rather than looking at their own group with insight. Any conservatives who think it's okay for Nazis and extremists to house themselves in their group might as well join them. Otherwise, stop making excuses and look at the problems.

What was the subreddit that represented to you the best example of downspiral of quality? To me it was /r/dataisbeautiful (kbin.social) en

At first it was all about presenting data in an original looking way. In the end it was about pushing political ideas in your throat using a plain bar graph. It was not about sharing something interesting you found but about taking advantage of a captive audience.

Niello,

Imo even with how the downvote/upvote in Reddit work, theoretically speaking there could be ways for r/unpopularopinion to work with some configurations. For example, automatically delete any post that gained a certain amount of upvotes. It's understandable that upvotes should be given to unpopular but interesting opinions that actually fits the sub, but since it's been shown that's not how people do it that behaviour should have been used to keep the content relevant.

Niello,

That'd a neat idea. The only real problem I see with it is some users turn the CSS off, but I doubt that's the majority of users.

Niello,

Yeah, I never understand people who assume something unreasonable on their own and then went "see? I'm right, you're wrong. I'm just being realistic (by assuming unrealistic things about the points made by the other side when that's not what anyone is saying)". Of course you are right, a meaningless kind of right.

chgowiz, a random en
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With regards to the shortcomings of federation and buy-in friction for new users, that op-ed republished by arstechnica isn't wrong.

I don't know what to do about it. I don't have the bandwidth or knowledge to fix the problem. But I would support those who can lower the friction for new users and assist with the growth of non-billionaire-owned platforms.

Niello,

@upforitbutnotdownforit

It's already being done. There are several options even.

Xepp, a RedditMigration en

Trying to migrate to kbin, but have several small questions after using it for some minutes now.
Can anyone please expain how to ask simple questions within this magazine, like:

How can I ask questions here without posting a new link, photo, article or video?

Questions like:

  • How can I add magazines to my favourites?
  • How can I search a specific magazine (like RedditMigration for those quesions I have...)?

Finally:

  • Is there a more extensive user guide than kbin's user guide on Github?

Niello,

All of the options in + except making a new magazine is creating a thread. The "Add new article" is equal to making a text thread.

You should be able to find some useful guides or info if you click "top" on the homepage, or go to /m/kbinMeta and click top to find some useful guides. Out of those this one should be a pretty helpful start.

https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/11493/A-small-FAQ-to-hopefully-help-new-users-to-kbin

I don't think there is currently a way to favourite magazines but you can subscribe to them by clicking the button on the side bar.

Niello,

So...this whole evidence point out by the author amounts to personal experience, and not even a kind of personal experience that is good for evidence. Smaller instances closing down isn't the same as large instances closing down when it comes to adoption. Heck, there's a recent report that shows the opposite of what is said here, with proper data to back it up.

https://www.deweysquare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/DSG-Snapshot-of-the-Twitter-Migration-June-2023.pdf

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